New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ct.p » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:37 pm

Gaz,

Mine recently went through at 0.24, my car;

Stock / factory AWX map

EGR active but dialled down to the min

The car has NEVER seen a drop of 2 stroke, I'd stop adding that to yours with immediate effect! And possibly put a tank or two of V+ or similar through it instead.

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I think what makes a huge difference is regualarly thrashing it to within an inch of it's life and getting the engine hot, really hot.

I have an old friend who runs the garage I take mine to as well, which helps. If you are worried and fancy an hours blast up the M4 to here for cobweb clearing purposes, a cup of tea, and then on for an MOT, you are more than welcome. Despite being a mate he does charge £45 though!
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gazwould » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:41 pm

SteUK wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:07 pm
Just shy of 100k in the clock, so averaging 10k a year, though the last owner did a lot less for a few years. Dpf reporting as approx 75% full. I know it’s gonna need replacing in a year or three, and that’s fine cus I want to keep the car. It’s the 0.5 on the plate that perplexes me. Why would VW do that? What benefit does it give them/the car?

Low , I wish...

0.60 VIN that normally blows 1.00 on a 2003 1.9 PD , years and a previous model away from a dpf X(
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Alan Gunn » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:51 am

2.0 on the plate on my tractor lol.
0.37 i think it was at the last MOT.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ray112 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:14 am

1.40 on plate value and 0.47 in last mot. And that's euro2 car. No 2stroke at test and on supermarket fuel. Been trashed to redline regularly. Maybe I'm wrong, but 2stroke motorcycles are always smoking, some more, others less, but they are, so maybe 2stroke oil is increasing smoke level on diesels as well.

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gazwould » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:27 am

Reduced mine by half with 2 Stroke , it was blowing 2.00 in the 2 years before my ownership and 2.00 a year into my ownership with the remap and egr disable thus proving they have no part in it .

1.50 in 2014 with part 2 Stroke use , then 1.00 the year after with total 2 Stroke use and similar the two years after .

The very best smoke opacity mean value in
7 years has been 0.94 :???:

New thermostat to go in , and an Mot test early half next month with it's higher ambient temps instead of December , if it doesn't do the trick , I'm out of luck and out of a Pissrat in a year...

Not really but you know what I mean ;)
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Alan Gunn » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:54 am

I always put 2 Stroke in.
My tractor is euro 2 and 3Ltr so blowing 0.37 is not affected by the 2 Stroke.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Hilly81 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:58 am

My 2005 AWX, 145k, Bill2000 map, EGR bypass, 2 stroke, blew 0.6 a few weeks back.

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ray112 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:44 am

Alan Gunn wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:54 am
I always put 2 Stroke in.
My tractor is euro 2 and 3Ltr so blowing 0.37 is not affected by the 2 Stroke.
Common rail injection system and euro2 emission class? @-) Are you sure about that?

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Alan Gunn » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:09 am

ray112 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:44 am
Alan Gunn wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:54 am
I always put 2 Stroke in.
My tractor is euro 2 and 3Ltr so blowing 0.37 is not affected by the 2 Stroke.
Common rail injection system and euro2 emission class? @-) Are you sure about that?
100%
Just looking for the printout but it's not where i thought it was could be in the car.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ray112 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:15 am

As far as I know m57 engine (which I believe is in your x5 as well ) started as euro3 and in later models it's euro4 probably dpf equipped, not so sure about that l. But it can't be euro2. Mine is 1.9afn, which has distributor pump and only one injector with needle lift sensor, no more electrics in injectors. Those engines be used even in forklifts. It's a totally different generation than yours.

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Alan Gunn » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:33 am

No DPF on mine.
EGR is disconnected.
I put some 2 Stroke in and some 2 Ethyl Hexyl Nitrate.
I used to use Millers but this stuff is just as good for a lot less along with the 2 Strok.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Ethyl-Hexy ... 1438.l2649
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ray112 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:39 am

Which year is your x5? I believe if not dpf, it will be euro3 class. But still those readings are really low :-bd

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Alan Gunn » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:51 am

ray112 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:39 am
Which year is your x5? I believe if not dpf, it will be euro3 class. But still those readings are really low :-bd
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gazwould » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:54 am

Dpf ?
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ray112 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:05 am

52 plate won't have dpf, but it's definitely euro3 emission class

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Alan Gunn » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:09 am

ray112 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:05 am
52 plate won't have dpf, but it's definitely euro3 emission class
It's the first diesel i have had that no matter what i do i have never seen any smoke at all.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ct.p » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:45 am

Gazwould wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:27 am
Reduced mine by half with 2 Stroke , it was blowing 2.00 in the 2 years before my ownership and 2.00 a year into my ownership with the remap and egr disable thus proving they have no part in it .

1.50 in 2014 with part 2 Stroke use , then 1.00 the year after with total 2 Stroke use and similar the two years after .

The very best smoke opacity mean value in
7 years has been 0.94 :???:

New thermostat to go in , and an Mot test early half next month with it's higher ambient temps instead of December , if it doesn't do the trick , I'm out of luck and out of a Pissrat in a year...

Not really but you know what I mean ;)
If it is that high then there has to be somethinh 'up'.

You did the glow pluggels recently I recall ?
But the thermostat is the biggy !!!

Also worth doing some data logging with vcds, I'd do;
MAF loggng
Temp logging, fuel, coolant and intake

When a MAF goes they can do it slowly and sneakily, knocking performace and massively increasing fuel consumption. But it happens so slowly you don't notice.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gavster30 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:46 am

My Mrs had 2005 X5 same 3.0d engine as 2005 5 series but X5 never had a DPF 5 series does! The X5 wasn't built by BMW it was commissioned.

Can't remember what Euro here was

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by caprixpack » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:10 pm

I thought the x5 was built by bmw in the States.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gazwould » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:14 pm

Cheers Col , I've no VCDS , these cars are so reliable :wink:

Performance great , mpg great , recent Meyle CTS , didn't do gloworms , temp gauge slow and rare 90 so yes thermostat is a biggie , given that it's the original? or not been changed for donkey's.

Hopefully that .

I know what you mean by things happening so slow and not noticing as pops did that with his shock absorbers in the B6 .
As you know many think they have to be leaking to be renewed .
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ct.p » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:31 pm

Gazwould wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:14 pm
Cheers Col , I've no VCDS , these cars are so reliable :wink:

Performance great , mpg great , recent Meyle CTS , didn't do gloworms , temp gauge slow and rare 90 so yes thermostat is a biggie , given that it's the original? or not been changed for donkey's.

Hopefully that .

I know what you mean by things happening so slow and not noticing as pops did that with his shock absorbers in the B6 .
As you know many think they have to be leaking to be renewed .
If you want to do a M4 blast, which would do it the world of good from carrot crunching land to up here on the edge of the 'big smoke', I'd happily do some data logging and give it the once over. Or is Aiden in Swindon (nearer to carrot crunching central) VCDS'd up?

But,

do the stat (and buy a stat housing)
do the glow pluggels
and do a few proper Italian tuneup's
get some data logging done
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gazwould » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:43 pm

Cheers , Aiden is nearer .

Haven't thought about the thermostat housing , what's the importance of it ? Original breaking or something I guess .

A dealer or TPS item only ?
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by Gavster30 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:23 pm

caprixpack wrote:I thought the x5 was built by bmw in the States.
Oh yeah just googled it, was made by BMW US division, thought it was out of Germany!

It was part BMW part Land Rover

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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by caprixpack » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:26 pm

Suppose us is the biggest market for them, saves shipping them over there I guess.
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Re: New MOT rules regarding dpf (May 2018)

Post by ct.p » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:30 pm

Gazwould wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:43 pm
Cheers , Aiden is nearer .

Haven't thought about the thermostat housing , what's the importance of it ? Original breaking or something I guess .

A dealer or TPS item only ?
I've broken two and I'm careful.

The stat gently pushes in and then twists into two very delicate clips in the plastic stat housing.

Fitting the stat without it being secured is very difficult.

Less than a tenner from VW if I recall.
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