Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

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Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by timprice » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:07 pm

Hi guys, hope everyone has had a good new year!

I'm getting a little worried about my B6 estate which seems to be literally eating tyres at a rate of one front set per 6-7k miles! It's a '07 plate 2.0TDI 140 Sport Estate with stock suspension (15mm lowered sports as standard) and 17" monte carlo alloys (also standard)

Is this normal on a B6 passat? I've got Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tyres on all round at the moment (235/45/17 '97Y' XL), but have had Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric F1's on before, and Bridgestone RE050A's on before that. Each set has lasted between 4k and 7k miles (rears are a lot better, can easily get 2 sets of fronts out of one set of rears).

Car has now covered just over 40k miles, and i had the wheel laser alignment done on both front and rear to correct the sawtoothing back in 2008 when i bought the car. I know the control arm bushes are weak on these cars, and i known on my particular car the suspension squeaks when you go over a speedbump on a cold morning, so could this be the problem?

Has anyone else had a similar issue? I don't hang around when driving the car, but also don't rag it anywhere, just normal acceleration and not harsh braking as i use the engine to brake a lot of the time. I'm just concerned this is going to be expensive, but i suppose at least one big bill is better than £600 every 6k miles for tyres (6 months driving for me!)

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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by tmstp » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:08 am

Check front shock absorbers, tie rod ends and wheel alignment at different garage.
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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by g-black » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:45 pm

What way are the the Tyres wearing? Usually a good place to start. Also, what pressure do you run?

Could just be that the wheels just need alligned again. I get mine done every year! Your tyre fitter should be advising you on why there wearing and what you should be doing about it, rather than raking £1200 a year out off you!!

Also, why the expensive range off tyres? Never seen a need for them imo.

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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by mk4gtiturbo » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:00 pm

I've just put the third set on the front of mine 2.0 TDI 140 Sport DSG (with 235/45 R17 97 Pirelli P-Zeros). Mine usually gets 19k out the fronts. I also put the new tyres of the rear wheels and swap the worn ones on the front.
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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by cooleronthecoast » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:10 pm

I've done (a fairly average) 10,000 miles in the last 12 months in my B6. Same model as your's. The tyres were part worn when I got the car, I'd guess around 6 or 7mm of tread depth on each tyre, they are still OK now, so as mentioned already, there is something amiss with the set up on your car, you shouldn't be wearing out quality tyres in less than 10,000 miles even cheapies should last longer than that!

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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by timprice » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:52 pm

Tyres are wearing pretty evenly across the tread and the car tracks straight, so i presume it's not an alignment issue (i guess it would be worth getting that done anyway at the next tyre change)

Running the tyres at 36-38psi all round (recommended pressures).

g-black - the reason i run "expensive top quality" tyres is purely for peace of mind and having read reviews of the current tyres (the Michelin PS3's), they seem a very good tyre, quiet and good in both wet and dry.

Do you reckon it would be worth taking the car to VW and seeing if they can find any issues with the suspension setup? as i say the suspension squeaks over speed bumps sometimes (which apparently is the control arm bushes) but other than that i've had no alarming noises or strange feelings from the car. i drove another car of the same age and it felt exactly the same...

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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by Giffer2 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:05 pm

timprice wrote: Running the tyres at 36-38psi all round (recommended pressures).
For the same size tyre on my 170 the VW recommended pressure is 40psi, 4 psi will make a difference.
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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by smo » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:00 pm

g-black wrote:Also, why the expensive range off tyres? Never seen a need for them imo.
They are the single most important thing along with brakes as they are the ONLY thing keping you on the road, poo tyres have poor grip, they dont grip on accelerating, cornering or braking as well as premium brands and therfore are more dangerous to drive with, those few extra metres of braking might just save you one day.

Premium tyres also last longer in most circumstances as they are higher quality rubber.

To the OP, i'd suggest higher pressures, i use 42 all round on mine and they last 20K a set - if it continues i'd get the geometry checked again and consult VW (as much as i hat to recommed that) but i doubt they will have anything to say that doesnt cost thousands and achieve nothing.

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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by brightside » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:50 pm

im a UHP tyre fitter, and that is odd.

I would like to see pictures of the tyres if its possible?

also £300 a corner seems a bit steep for those tyres....

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Re: Terrible Tyre Wear - 2.0TDI 140

Post by A13XDB » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:27 pm

brightside wrote: also £300 a corner seems a bit steep for those tyres....
Just picking up on this part of the thread.

I fit Continentals to my B6 SEL 170 Estate, uprated for weight load, and these are approx £125.00 per corner.
Sounds like your leg is being lifted. No offense.

It came to me with Dunlops from VW and had the well documented problem of uneven tyre wear on the rear pair.

Since it has had Continentals they do not less than 15k per a pair on the front. It has had 3 news pairs in 45k.
The Dunlops I scrapped due to the wear problem.

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