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Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:46 am

Hello all,

Newbie here so please excuse my ignorance.

I’ve just bought a 2008 B6 sport and love the car apart from the rear suspension seems incredibly hard, it feels as though there’s little suspension on it-unusually it’s worse on the motorway as feels jittery and hard which gets tiresome on long journeys.

Checked the springs out and they look to have been renewed but the shocks look original, could it be the wrong springs fitted or shocks need replacing ? Wonder how you check for the correct spring -is there a colour or code on them ?

The front feels firm but relatively comfortable which is how I thought the sport would be and it does seem to sit lower at the rear than the front is this normal ?

Sorry for so many questions, love the car and want her driving right.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by 2008tdihighline » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:55 pm

I might be wrong but I'm not sure if you can purchase a stiffer spring, maybe listed as heavy duty for people who use the vehicle to tow.

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:30 pm

Thanks highline,

The car does have a tow bar fitted so may well be the case, I’ll have to try and figure out which spring is on it .

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by DMitch16 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:25 am

Rockeye wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:30 pm
Thanks highline,

The car does have a tow bar fitted so may well be the case, I’ll have to try and figure out which spring is on it .
Might well be the heavy duty version - the key is to match the shocks for the best damping ratio to reduce the hardness the hd springs will add. Also recommend you check the inner wishbone bushes as they are a common failure. Other bushes may be nearing end of life if they've not been replaced already. Upgrade the wishbone inners if you can to a medium to medium soft poly version. Good quality droplinks and new ARB bushes also help the overall feel. It's surprising how a few bits of new rubber and the proper shocks can make such a big difference to the ride quality.
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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:30 pm

Thanks for your reply Dmitch,

I’m going to take this to the dealer tomorrow and have them check it out as I’ve only just bought the car and have 3 months warranty, I’m sure it’s too hard even for a sport model, may even try the last owner and see if they can shed any light on it.

I’ll try to get them to rectify a few niggles as the CD part of the radio won’t work and as soon as you put her in reverse the parking sensors beep continuously.

Will come back with an answer hopefully re the suspension once it’s sorted, I’m guessing now from the replies to my post it’s updated springs and old shocks.

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by david b » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:11 am

Had mine replaced Sport springs are dealer only part From memory I think the code was 1 purple 1 yellow 3 white dots on springs
they may have fitted pattern parts about half price but not made for Sport If you give dealer your reg they will tell you the correct part Hope this helps
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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:29 pm

Thanks David,

That’s great information and I’ll contact the dealer tomorrow and do a little digging, the car has gone back today to hopefully be sorted and I’ll get them to check the colour code on the springs.

My car has a compliant yet firm front end when bounced up and down yet the rear is very firm, is your car compliant yet firm on the rear or very firm like mine-wondered if all sports are rock hard on the rear.

It’s so firm it feels like it’s unsettling the front in the motorway and quite uncomfortable, it also feels a little lower than it should at the rear.

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by david b » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:39 am

No mine feels fine as I said the Sport springs are VW only parts if you give the dealer your VIN no theywill tell you the correct springs.
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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm

That’s confirmed it fit me as mine is definitely too firm, I’ve got the mechanic checking the colour codes in the morning,

Thanks for all the information. 😀

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:40 am

Quick update in the rear suspension issues I’ve been having,

I’ve spoken to the garage this morning and they’ve confirmed that one of the rear springs has been replaced with aftermarket one and the other side has the original sport spring, this would explain the height difference side to side.

I’m looking at replacing the pair as the original spring has 97K on it and obviously the other spring is different, does anyone know a spring air I can fit to my sport that will give the same look but greater ride comfort ?

I’m reluctant to got to VW initially ( ultimately may need to ) for the pair as will be expensive and wondered if there are aftermarket alternatives you may know of ?

Thanks for any help .😀

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by david b » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:09 am

I checked mine last night the code is 3 yellow dots 1 purple dot 1 blue dot these sport only springs are 15 mm lower they are vw only parts I checked everywhere they are not that expensive
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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:45 pm

That’s great thanks David,

I’ve found a place in London called Triscan that can supply two sport springs for around £75 all in, just a little cautious in case they’re telling me duff gen !

I wonder if I could fit standard springs and shocks as can get them all for around £100 and improve the ride ? ( sport front standard rear )

Wondering if doing this would upset to handling somewhat, my car sits low at the rear so 15 mm higher wouldn’t look out of place .

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by david b » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:39 am

To be honest I would stick with the sport springs from VW they are not expensive and made to fit . david b

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Gazwould » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:31 am

Fit the best, Eibach & Bilstein .
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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:21 pm

Thanks for all your replies,

The cars going back in tomorrow for new coil springs and shocks to renew the back end, I’ll post how I get on and if any improvement.

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:39 pm

Gents the car is back now and I’ve had the rear shocks and springs replaced, it may sound odd but it was so are at the rear that I went with standard springs and shocks.

The car sits much better now only slightly higher at the rear and rides much more comfortably, it’s still not super soft but far better than it was and I’m much happier.

I’ve got sport springs on the front and SE rear but saves the rears sport set up in case when sold anyone wants to put it back to standard. Sounds n odd combo but rides and sits very well.

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Mindriot » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:55 pm

Congratulations, youve unbalanced the cars handling characteristics.

Oem sport springs are only appx -15 mm and not much uprated or different from std parts capabilities in terms of comfort.

That said different enough!
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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Gazwould » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:01 pm

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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Sport estate suspension

Post by Rockeye » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:48 pm

It’s a Passat not an Aston, wasn’t exactly the pinnacle of handling before I swapped them over, just a little comfier now.

Will swap the fronts as soon I have the time.

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