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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by aman23 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:32 pm

500ml in a full 62l tank is not far off what I have been using. I’m not very accurate with it because my car doesn’t seem to mind. Don’t know what’s happening under the bonnet though.

I know one thing the smell out the exhaust is much more pleasant. Lot less smoke and even though I don’t notice anything else I do know when I haven’t been using it. After a few hundred miles I can definitely tell it drives different. But I do my best not to miss a dose now.




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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gavster30 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:42 pm

I'm feeling positive about it, smoke reduction would be nice although it's not that bad and the smell would be an advantage, I only notice the pong when the engine is cold and the first thing I do is reverse in the morning!

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Abdul » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:06 pm

Well first full tank used up and the following noted. Averaged 46mpg thats brim to brim. Cars pickup pace in a cleaner manner. Car does seem to tick over smoother to. So far so good shall keep this experiment going. I've been using 300ml to the full tank.

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:35 pm

The cars really pong when you get rid of the cat .
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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by howey » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:22 pm

Does it matter when you poor it in?

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by lacroupade » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:35 pm

Interesting - this one took its time to pop up here.

Its definitely a useful trick as the proponents on the forum suggest. I never bothered with the Passat but I also run a couple of Nissan Terranos with 2.7TDi engines - oldish but bulletproof diesel motors that will even happily run on 100% vegetable oil (the new, clean stuff, not the poo that some dumbos blag from the local chippie or chinese) and they definitely benefitted noticeably during the several years I used it.

I might tip a bit in the old girl now this has prompted me. I just used to use the same stuff I tip in the chainsaw mix so it never goes to waste :hyst

One other trick that might appeal to the experimenters and its one I got from a guy who worked at the old Esso Research Centre that used to be near Abingdon....apparently sticking a similar ratio of acetone (300ml or so) into a tank of diesel will improve combustion....more so than 2-stroke which after all is just a lubricant; I can't see any science behind oil improving combustion but I'm always open to being convinced.

I used it for several years until I couldn't be bothered but take care on two fronts; firstly it can feck some paint finishes up if you spill it and secondly for gods sake dont use nail polish - it has undesirable additives in it. Pure industrial acetone is whats needed. Used to make the old Terrano a noticable bit smoother and responsive, but may be less so on a more modern engine. Its easily available here in France in any supermarket for around three euros a litre so I think I'll start using it again :esm

Now then, anyone heard of Hiclones? :hyst :hyst :hyst

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ppp3passat » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:13 pm

well, i am one of those who mixt 2t in normal ratio. it's all good, the motor runs smoother, but in the morning after, the start it's a little bit sluggish...and smokey at the rearend, blueish kind off. before adding the 2t, it was a perfect start , it didn't need two or three turn to start...maybe it's just me.

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:28 pm

... or your glowplugs , which 2T are you using ?
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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ppp3passat » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:57 pm

glowplugs were changed 3 yearsago...beru for avf engine. 2t is castrol red bottle jaso fb

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by howey » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:00 pm

Haha mine seems exactly the opposite since using 2 stroke which insistently appears to have shot up in price!

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:12 pm

Indeed , I would say 95% experience a positive result.
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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gavster30 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:36 pm

A week or so on, no issues here, car feels smoother maybe slight gains in power bit no noticeable gains in MPG

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:40 pm

Any two stroke oil deals going around? Just filled out last litre in 250ml bottles, so will need some more soon. Thanks.

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:53 pm

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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:26 am

Thanks :-bd

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:43 am

I was reading a little bit yesterday about 2stroke oil added to diesel, and everything seems fine, only bad thing mentioned in some places was about zinc, which is causing build-up on injectors after time. And that there are zinc free 2T oils which should be used. Only problem is, that nowhere on bottle I can't find anything about do the oil contain zinc or not. At least not on bottle "no nonsense" from Screwfix. Forgot to have a look on carlube 2T bottle, but probably nothing either. So how can I know, if that's a zinc free oil? Do I need to look for some exact specification, which means there are no zinc in oil? I believe someone on here will be more educated on this and will know the answer.

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:23 am

Which article did you look at and what JASO spec of 2T ?

Zinc is unavoidable in oil as it's a soft metal that cushions between two harder metals .

ZDDP ( Zinc dithiophosphate ) is what is used as an anti wear additive and it's the phosphate in particular that doesn't burn completely leaving ash , hense we use low ash , mineral , JASO FB .

Like the ACEA C3 low ash engine oil DPF equipped have to use , lower in ZDDP but the oil basestocks groups and additive package is juiced up to compensate and then exceeds the older spec in oil performance perameters.
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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:34 am

Can't remember article, was a lot of discussions in forums etc. Specification I think is JASO FB or FC. Need to have a look later at home.

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:27 am

I'm sure it will be JASO FC as it's a semi / full synthetic which is the main difference and because of this doesn't dissolve in the fuel nor burn aswell leaving deposits .
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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:34 am

So which one is the one to use, is it JASO FB then?
Last one I bought was that from your link, and I think it was JASO FB. Not sure about carlube from gsf car parts, will have a look later.

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by Gazwould » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:57 am

Yes , FB and Carlube is FB .
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I'd give her some 'trivago' .

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:21 am

Gazwould wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:57 am
Yes , FB and Carlube is FB .
Cool, then I'm on the right track. :-bd

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Re: Two stroke experiment starts today

Post by ray112 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:22 am

Plus my knowledge has improved about 2T oils. \m/

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