The run up to tighter DPF laws

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by calumvw » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:20 am

dubber36 wrote:
calumvw wrote:
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In time the full ramifications to our health will become clearer and the cost of the problem to the NHS trying to fight it.
We're all living too long nowadays anyway. If it means we die off younger as a result of breathing in soot, it will be a better place for our kids, with more wealth and houses to go round.
Yeah because kids breath different air from the adults don’t they


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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by dubber36 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:17 pm

If we die off out of the way, there will be less people to operate polluting machines, so the air quality will be better. Better quality of air and less people breathing it in means there will be more good air to go around.

We all need to die at some point, so it might as well be sooner rather than later and give all those that follow after us a better chance.
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by calumvw » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:39 pm

dubber36 wrote:If we die off out of the way, there will be less people to operate polluting machines, so the air quality will be better. Better quality of air and less people breathing it in means there will be more good air to go around.

We all need to die at some point, so it might as well be sooner rather than later and give all those that follow after us a better chance.

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Gazwould » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:34 pm

In his spare time Si likes to keep the population down.

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by dubber36 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:45 pm

Gazwould wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:34 pm
In his spare time Si likes to keep the population down.
It needs keeping down, so I'm doing my bit by driving an Amarok.
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Gazwould » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:29 pm

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by decker » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:50 am

(New stricter assessment of diesels fitted with particulate filters from May
If any visible smoke is emitted from the exhaust the car will fail the MOT).

Lol... WTF !!

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Mindriot » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:54 pm

Cheats, crooks and dodgy testers wont change.

Honest and unfortunate people will pay the price.

More rules for a flawed sytem.

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Gazwould » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:19 pm

More info copied from ASN..


Major changes to the MOT test on 20th of May 2018

Some of you may have already heard that there are big changes coming to the MOT test this May. Hereare just a few of the biggest changes that are most likely to affect you. Please take these with a pinch of salt as nothing will be finalised until the end of April and will probably still be subject to change after that date. Remember it will take your MOT tester time to get up to speed with these too!

So...

Advisories are being replaced with minor fails. These are all pre written & approved by DVSA. You will still get a pass but they will be noted on your test certificate. Manual advisories are still being worked out but may disappear completely.

Those of you who have changed your standard headlight bulbs for HID's will now get a major fail even if the aim is correct. It has always been an offence to fit HID bulbs to halogen headlamps so the MOT is now in line with that.

Reverse lights are now part of the MOT for any car registered from 1st September 2009 (59 plate onwards). Daytime running lamps (DRL's) & front fog lamps must work on vehicles registered from March 2018 (18 plate onwards).

Engine Management Light is now a major fail. It must come on with the ignition and then turn off when the engine is started.

Brake pad warning lights are a major fail

Handbrake with excessive travel is now a major fail. Before it would only a fail if there was no reserve travel.

Contaminated (dirty) brake fluid is a major fail. Not sure how that will work as the MOT tester isn't allowed to remove the fluid cap.

Oil leaks (engine, gearbox etc.) can be a major failure if they are deemed large enough.

It seems they have removed the failure for tyres not being fitted according to sidewall instructions. Inner/outer or rotation incorrect.

Any modifications/removal to emissions related devices, this includes DPF'S and EGR's is now a major fail.

Where a DPF canister has clearly been cut open and re-welded, it will now fail.

A vehicle fitted with a DPF that emits any kind of visible smoke during the metered test will now fail

Emissions limits for diesels registered on or after 1st of January 2014 have been reduced. All diesels will now need to pass the limit that was set by the manufacturer when the car was new. This can be found on the VIN plate. For example the current limit for your diesel car may be 1.50. That could change to as low as 0.30 with the new rules.

These are just some of the bigger changes to the MOT test the average motorist is likely to be affected by. There are dozens, perhaps even over 100 changes to the actual MOT test and to the way testers record tests on the MOT computer. Please remember these are all subject to change in the coming months and remember spare a thought for your MOT tester before you say...

"Well it passed like that last year!"
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by gtijames » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:22 pm

Sounds like some fairly drastic changes but we shall see what actually does happen!

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Gazwould » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:53 am

Turned out to be alot of gubberment scare mongering .

Yes sure double the diesels are failing but these are either scrappers , poorly maintained or poor knowledge to fix which could be as simple as a thermostat ;)

I'm glad the smokey poo is scrap .

Diesel ain't dead , I bought another one and someone got given a list of company cars , all derv !

ULEZ in London in April will be interesting but it's a city with bad air quality that needs radical change .

Everyday I read of DPF woes and the special high revs motorway poo journeys that people with near blocked Dpf's have to make , these things sap efficiency as it is !

My nearest motorway is an hour away , lol .


As for the test Dpf's are rarely visable because of top and bottom engine covers , if they are visable there's the blind side , so surgery is still an option.

Get an egr off file too as the egr promotes incomplete combustion causing soot .

A good remap file does not have overfueling .

Smoke , what smoke , we have Euro 3's that can do sub 0.50 :ymhug:
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Alan Gunn » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:45 am

Gazwould wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:53 am
Turned out to be alot of gubberment scare mongering .
Did i not tell you that Gaz.
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Gazwould » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:31 am

It's not total scaremongering as mobile bonfires are being removed , I predicted the smoke opacity value test limit should reduce when gubberment BS talk of OBD testing , as that was a reliable already in place method .

If I had a quid everytime someone thinks dpf removal is an instant fail..

It is if the tester can see a ' cleaning' weld !

And if the average smoke opacity result is in excess of the VIN or default .

As you know some vin don't have a value , some are elsewhere and some just trim the VIN sticker so the higher default is used , lol .

One thing I don't get is the

"You must also give a major fault if you:

can see smoke of any colour coming from the exhaust "

That's what the smoke opacity machine is for and a dpf equipped car can still blow 2.00 on it's first acceleration !
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Evil » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:34 pm

If a car is fitted with DPF at the factory it should not pass an mot if it has been removed or noticeably modified.. according to the MOT tester who tests our cars..
Same goes for EGR and catalytic converter.

Is he wrong?

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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Gazwould » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:32 pm

He's not wrong .

If you see it , fail it .

But alot can't be seen because of engine covers depending on egr position , including egr disable ( removed vac line ) , full egr delete kits , even if the top cover was missing there is no way of failing an egr mapped out of the software or egr adaption and even egr 1.5mm slip in blanks .

Nothing to see .
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Alan Gunn » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:25 pm

That's it with the DPF'S they can't see them so they can't fail them.
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Re: The run up to tighter DPF laws

Post by Evil » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:41 pm

Gotcha.. never had a car with one so dunno.

Did read, on an official site, that the tester is allowed to remove stuff that's not bolted down (so Passat engine covers exempt) but has to fix anything they break at their expense, with the owner present.. hence why testers don't.



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